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Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 4 months ago #896

This is a vast topic , though I am trying to simplify and brief it as much as possible .......
One Kaal Chakra is of 20 Koda-kodi Saagar (measurement of time).
It is divided into two parts :-
1. Awsarpini Kaal and
2. Utsarpini Kaal ,
each of 10 Koda-kodi Saagar.
"Sarpini" refers to the body of snake which is broadest at the top and gradually decreasing is narrowest at the bottom. "Aw" indicates gradual reduction and "Ut" refers to gradual increment . Both touch each other at the both the ends(head touching head and tail touching tail as shown in the diag. below).
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Now the question is what gradually increases or decreases ??
The answer is happiness !! We 'll see how :
Both the Kaal Chakras (Awsarpini Kaal Chakra and Utsarpini Kaal Chakra) are further divide into six parts called "Aras" . What is 1st of one is the last of another .

Aras Awsarpini Kaal Chakra Utsarpini Kaal Chakra
1st Susham - Sushma Dusham - Dushma
2nd Sushma Dushma
3rd Susham - Dushma Dusham - Sushma
4th Dusham - Sushma Susham - Dushma
5th Dushma Sushma
6th Dusham - Dushma Susham - Sushma

Where "Sushma" and "Dushma" are Happiness and Grievances respectively. Thus ,
"Susham - Sushma" is "Ara" of extreme happiness ,
"Sushma" is the "Ara" of happiness ,
"Susham - Dushma" is "Ara" of more happiness and less sorrows ,
"Dusham - Sushma" is "Ara" of more sorrows and less happiness ,
"Dushma" is the "Ara" of grievances and,
"Dusham - Dushma" is the "Ara" of extreme grievances.

We are living in the 5th "Dushma" Ara of the "Awsarpini Kaal" i.e, "Dushma".

* First tirthankara Bhagwan Rishabh Prabhu was born when 84 lakh poorva 3 years 8 months and 15 days were left in the completion of 3rd "Ara".
* Bharat Chakravarti was born in the 3rd Ara.
* Remaining 61 "Shalaka Purush" (iron man) were born in the fourth Ara
* When 3 years 8 months and 15 days were left in the completion of 4th "Ara" , 24th Tirthankara , Bhagwan Mahaveer Swami attained sidhagati .
* In the "Utsarpini Kaal Chakra" when 3 years 8 months and 15 days would pass, the 1st Tirthankar would be born.
* The Kaal chakra affects only 5 Bharat and 5 Aebahrat/Aeravat Kshetras.
* In Mahavideha Kshetra there is always one type of ara, like the 4th ara of ours !!



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Last Edit: 2 years, 2 months ago by Priyadarshini Jain.
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Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #957

Jai jinedra!!
I just wanted to know that in both the kal's 24 thithakanar will be their?? Or fir sif ek hi kaal mai hota hai???

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #958

one question '' kya dusam kal me janma hua jeev moksh me ja sakta hai ?

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #959

Hi Darshika !!
Jai Jinendra !!

In both the parts of kaal chakra, there are 24 Tirthankaras .....!!
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Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #960

Jai Jinendra Dharmendra ji !!

Dusham kaal mein janm lene wale jeevon ko moksh prapt nahin ho sakta ................isiliye ye kaha gaya hai ki aise karm karo ki Mahavidheha kshetra mein janm le sako.........is samay wahin se moksh prapti sambhav hai !!
Wahan Kaal - Chakra ka prabhav nahin hota !!
20 Veeharmaan wahin vichar rahe hain !!
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Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #961

In the "Utsarpini Kaal Chakra" when 3 years 8 months and 15 days would pass, the 1st Tirthankar would be born !!
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Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #962

* In the "Utsarpini Kaal Chakra" when 3 years 8 months and 15 days 0f the 3rd Ara would pass, the 1st Tirthankar would be born !!
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Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #963

Priyadrashaniji the 24 thirthanka's can take birth in sushama period's itself?? Am i right??

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #964

no dear !!
the first two Aras - Susham sushma and sushma are purely yoglik period !!

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #965

Mahavidha kshtre mai humase 4th aara ki tarah rahate hai so moksh ki pratip ho thi hai mahavidha kshtre sa..

Am i right??
Last Edit: 2 years, 3 months ago by Darshika jain.

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #966

Yoglik Kaal is a period where a boy and girl are born together .
All their desires are fulfilled by Kalpa - wriksha .
When they grow up they lead the life as husband and wife .
They give birth to one Yugal - a boy and a girl.
They die together - one of the partner dies with a yawn and other with a sneeze .
After death they go to Dev gati because they are very simple and pure at heart.


I am saying this on the basis of what I have studied so far and believe that it is according to Arhat vaani and Aagamas and have not added anything from my mind or perception !!
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Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #970

Priyadrashaniji how far i knw about kaal chakra or what even i heard is what u have told or discussed it here:)....

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #971

It means thirthanka's take birth in 3rd aara i.e. Of susham- dusham... That to after 3 years 8 months and 15 days of 3rd aara....... Right??

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #973

THANKS PRIYADARSHANIJI PLEASE READ MY QUESTION CAREFULLY .

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #974

utsarpini kaal ke hisab se dusam kaal me janma jiv moksh me ja sakta hai kya
Last Edit: 2 years, 3 months ago by Dharmendra Jain.

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #975

It like dharmedharji Jo bhi jiva dusham aur dusham-dusham kaal mai jiva janam leta hai usse moksh ki prapti nahi ho skthi hai

i think:) and am sure

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #976

dusam kal me janm liya hua jiv moksh me ja sakta hai in the utsarpini kal

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #977

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dusham kaal mein manushya ka masthisk itna vikasit nahi ho sakta ki moksha k liye dharm aaradhana kar sake...isliye us kaal mein jeev ka moksha jana sambhav nahi....or mahavideh kshetra mein jeev ekbhav avatari ho jata h...isiliy jaisa priyadarshiniji ne kaha hum aise karm karen ki hum mahavideh kshetra pahunch sake.....
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Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #979

APP SAB LOG AVSARPINI KAL KE DUSAM KAL KI BAT KAR RAHE HAI USME JANMA JEEV MOKSH NAHI JAA SAKTA HAI THAT IS TRUE BUT MAINE QUESTION PUCHA HAI DUSAM KAL ME JANMA JEEV MOKSH ME JA SAKTA HAI TO UTSARPANI KE DUSAM KAL ME JANMA JEEV MOKSH ME JA SAKTA HAI .IAM PRETTY SURE UNDERSTAND OR NOT
Last Edit: 2 years, 3 months ago by Dharmendra Jain.

Re: Kaal Chakra !! 2 years, 3 months ago #986

Dharmendra ji !!

Awsarppini kaal ho ya utsarpini kaal...........dushma and dusham dushma ara mein janma jeev , us janma mein ,moksh ki prapti nahin kar sakta !!
you can say that its a rule............!!
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